Internal Family Systems: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with Dr. Richard Schwartz
Dr. Rick and I are joined by Dr. Richard Schwartz, creator of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model of therapy, to explore how we can integrate all the aspects of who we are. We explain the IFS model, the nature of parts and their roles, and how we can use this knowledge to increase self-awareness and deal with common problems. Then Rick and Dr. Schwartz dive deep into the nature of the “Self,” where it comes from, and how we can tune into and strengthen it.
This was a wide-ranging conversation, and we were thrilled to have Dr. Schwartz on the podcast again. You won’t want to miss this one.
About our Guest: Dr. Richard “Dick” Schwartz is the creator of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model of therapy, and has authored a number of books and over fifty articles focused on IFS. His newest book is No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model.
I am now writing on Substack, you can check out my work here.
Key Topics:
0:00: Introduction
2:15: A quick intro to the Internal Family Systems Model and our “parts”
6:45: Releasing the “Self”
11:10: The transpersonal vs. the scientific paradigms of the Self
16:00: How the practical side of IFS connects to the spiritual
23:20: The four goals of IFS, and fractals of parts
26:15: The practice of becoming your own attachment figure
32:15: Kindness and Richard’s own experience integrating his exiled parts
37:25: The value of the heavily personified framework of IFS
46:15: The counterintuitiveness of befriending our “bad” qualities
49:55: Relating the non-pathologizing nature of IFS to clinical psychological conditions
55:25: First and second darts
57:15: Identifying parts with curiosity, courage, and physical awareness
1:03:25: How asking yourself questions gets you in touch with your intuition
1:12:45: Recap
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